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chokaay
07-10-2007, 11:01 PM
This article doesn't have T-Mobile in it (although it probably should have), but it DOES mention the cellular industry specifically... and mentions Sprint... MANY times! :p


Your Call Is Important to Us -- Not!
Customer Service Seems to Keep Getting Worse. Who Does It Right And Who Has No Clue?

By MARCUS BARAM
July 10, 2007

What's the difference between Fed Ex and Bank of America?

One knows customer service and the other doesn't, according to consumer surveys.

So, who does the job well and why do so many companies still put their customers through hell by putting them in an automated phone merry-go-round or flaunting a rude and indifferent attitude?

According to the sources we consulted, these companies are consistently cited for the quality of their service:

Starbucks

Nordstrom

Four Seasons Hotels

Lexus

LL Bean

Chick-fil-A

Ritz Carlton

FedEx

UPS

Cadillac

Companies that score high believe in a culture of service. "These firms know that there are so many choices out there for consumers, if they don't please them, they'll go on to the competitor," says Horrell.

He cites Starbucks as an example. "They make that experience enjoyable, and I'm willing to pay for it," says Ed Horrell, the host of a radio program, "Talk About Service," and the author of "The Kindness Revolution."

"I can get a cup of coffee at Burger King or McDonald's for a third of the price, but you don't get the same experience."

Those top-rated companies recognize that much of their success is due to word of mouth, explains Marc Karasu, a former executive at Yahoo. "American Express seems to do a good job. So does Nike. They recognize the value of their customers referring them to friends. Those are the companies that tend to win over time."

But why do so many companies not get it?

A combination of factors, from the increasing reliance on automated phone systems to companies slashing budgets for their customer service divisions to disgruntled employees passing on their frustration, has provoked customers into voicing their complaints about the way companies treat them.

The latest target is Sprint, which made headlines Tuesday for booting 1,000 customers who habitually complained about their service.

Other recent examples include AOL, which attracted notoriety after a recording of a customer's inability to close his account became an Internet sensation, and Best Buy, which refused requests to redirect calls to stores.

The worst offenders invariably tend to be cell phone companies, cable TV companies, airlines and banks. These companies are among those that turned up in surveys by consumer and customer service consultants: AOL, Albertson's, Bank of America, Best Buy, Dell, Day's Inn, Home Depot, Sprint, Wells Fargo.

"I probably speak to 25,000 people a year, and every time I speak, I'll ask whether anyone thinks customer service is improving. Nobody raises their hand," says Horrell.

Horrell believes that companies have disconnected from what their customers really want because they don't train their customer service reps properly and they outsource those services to other countries. "What I found is that customers don't expect perfection, but a reasonable attempt to show that someone cares as opposed to the general attitude of indifference," he said.

In addition to Sprint, Horrell cites Radio Shack and the airlines because they illustrate how poor treatment of employees filters down to customers. "Last year, Radio Shack fired a couple hundred employees by e-mail. How is that going to affect the remaining employees? Why should they show any regard for their customers if they get treated like crap? There is a direct correlation between happy employees and customer satisfaction."

Automated phone systems are one of the biggest sources of complaints. Although they are useful at helping customers with routine transactions like checking account balances, such systems end up frustrating those who have more specific or complicated questions.

"The purpose of these automated systems is very specific: to save money by handling phone calls without going to a person," says Peter Leppik, the CEO of Vocal Laboratories, which is hired by corporate call centers to survey their customers. "The company has made the assumption that they can push you to use the automated system if you push hard enough. Satisfaction goes through the floor and frustration goes through the roof."

Although numerous Web sites listing tactics for getting around automated systems have been created by angry consumers, the companies monitor them and change their strategies to block out customers, says Leppik.

Despite recent accounts, the cell phone industry has actually improved its customer service, according to surveys. "We have been tracking the large mobile phone companies every quarter for four years and in that time, as an industry, they have improved their customer service demonstrably," says Leppik.

Leppik notes that large financial institutions such as banks, which his firm has been tracking for 2½ years, haven't changed their customer service ratings. And the airlines? "Lord only know if there's any hope for the airlines," says Leppik, who added that his firm dropped the industry a few years ago because "they weren't interested in the data we were providing since they were bankrupt."

Karasu is one consumer who took matters into his own hands. Soon after he had a "mild explosion" at his neighborhood dry cleaner after they left the collar stays in his dress shirt, he started Measuredup.com, which compiles accounts of good and bad customer service from thousands of consumers.

"I wasn't mad that the shirts were ruined but that the person working there could not care less," says Karasu. "In urban areas, where people are in a rush and time is at a premium, people feel that their dollars aren't respected and that they aren't getting customer service."

Karasu also get proactive by leaving cards that say, "You've Been Rated on MarkedUp.com" at businesses he frequents. "There are some stories on the site about people reading reviews and proactively fixing the problem."


ABC NEWS: Is Customer Service Getting Worse? (http://abcnews.go.com/Business/CreativeConsumer/story?id=3363947&page=1)

Railroader
07-11-2007, 02:14 AM
Good article, thanks Chokaay! I wonder what this person means by "In urban areas, where people are in a rush and time is at a premium, people feel that their dollars aren't respected and that they aren't getting customer service."..maybe big city arrogance? We in rural and small towns are just as deserving of good customer service :)

I would agree, customer service seems to have taken a nose dive, especially among big corporations. I try and deal with local outfits here when I can, they seem to have much more personal and down to earth customer service.


Their top list-

Starbucks-RARELY go there

Nordstrom -Never go there

Four Seasons Hotels -Never stay there

Lexus-Don't have one

LL Bean-Never shop with them

Chick-fil-A .. ??

Ritz Carlton- Definitely don't stay there

FedEx -Use them

UPS -Use them

Cadillac -Don't own one

narunetto
07-11-2007, 06:16 AM
It's really too bad that customer service is getting bad in some businesses. Fortunately, T-Mobile is awesome with their customer service. I called them the other day to change something on my plan, and they seemed happy and willing to assist me, also they made small talk while they were waiting for something on the computer. You don't get that from AT&T, I know.

wirelessforever
07-12-2007, 02:00 AM
Does AT&T have weekend support now? For the longest time AT&T/Cingulbar were closed all or part of the weekend.

AT&T/Cingulbar sucks.


It's really too bad that customer service is getting bad in some businesses. Fortunately, T-Mobile is awesome with their customer service. I called them the other day to change something on my plan, and they seemed happy and willing to assist me, also they made small talk while they were waiting for something on the computer. You don't get that from AT&T, I know.

SoMuch2S@y
07-12-2007, 03:02 AM
haha no surprise my bank (Wells Fargo) is on the crap list. I got charged 2 bucks for speaking to a rep, when the stupid automated system SENT ME TO THE REP because it was down!!

Oh and I love this quote from the article regarding StarBUCKS:
"I can get a cup of coffee at Burger King or McDonald's for a third of the price, but you don't get the same experience."

Seriously?? Is that the excuse this guy is using for buying an 8 dollar cup of coffee?? the "experience"??!! LOL From what I see everytime I pass a BUCKS, the "experience" includes waiting in a ridiculously long line with all the other lemmings.

dsigma6
07-12-2007, 06:49 AM
Chick-fil-A .. ??
I beg your pardon!!! Dang westerner.

As to everything else, I'm not going to state where I do and do not shop...that's not the point. Of course the Four Seasons should have great CS, just like CADILLAC and Lexus.

Railroader
07-12-2007, 06:54 AM
I beg your pardon!!! Dang westerner.

.

Yep, and I wouldn't live anywhere else :cool: Oh, I checked, they have stores in the Southwest now, though none in CA. As for customer service, it should be good with EVERY company, regardless of how much money you spend, Good CS should not have a price tag.

Edit-It's just living by the Golden Rule, Do unto others as you would have done unto you.

wirelessforever
07-12-2007, 12:06 PM
Recent business conference at the Four Seasons: Bad food and then ran out of food, rude employees, very bad experience.

Name perception isn't always reality.

AT&T arguably has one of the most widely recognized names in American business. The perception is that they SHOULD be the best. Limited cuistomer service hours, rude customer service employees, high prices and poor service. Doesn't much add up.

TMo on the other hand ... pretty good service at reasonable prices.

I beg your pardon!!! Dang westerner.

As to everything else, I'm not going to state where I do and do not shop...that's not the point. Of course the Four Seasons should have great CS, just like CADILLAC and Lexus.

dsigma6
07-12-2007, 12:33 PM
Were you staying at the hotel, or just having a meeting there? I've stayed at the Four Seasons a few times, and was completely satisfied with the experience. This was in Philadelphia, guessing you were out in CA.

Even a company ranked #1 in customer service will end up with people posting how bad they are on a forum.

chokaay
07-12-2007, 03:48 PM
Good CS should not have a price tag.


But it does... to the company or owner that pays the employees! (This is probably the most "popular" excuse among companies who don't particularly focus on customer service... or those that say they do but really don't. ;))

redwildebeast
07-12-2007, 06:10 PM
chick-fil-a sucks. overpriced and crappy meat. but their CS is good i have to say.

jdmchico
07-12-2007, 08:11 PM
I call at&t the other to inquire about my switch my house line over. and the rep. price matching my service. he asked me oh who do you have as your wireless provider. im like t-mobile of course. they offer great service and customer service when ever i need it on unlike others lmao. he like but at&t offers you 5.00 discount if you have our cellphone providers. i was like aawww no thanks, we have a plan for 900 minutes blah blah i was like really and let me guess 60 buck lol... I was like no thanks have a nice day. click

jdmchico
07-12-2007, 08:14 PM
METRO PCS is the WORSE company has fars as customer service they have Automated system that denies you from ever being transfered to a Customer Rep. and just to get of hold of one its Dreaded 15-20 minutes to get connected and of top of the fact you have to make payment in cash your charged a fee, over the phone a fee. with a rep a fee. and online its free lol.. to get access to the Onling Account you get charge 1.00

PortPowerKS
07-12-2007, 10:18 PM
*Fervered anxious face* Oooooooooh, lemme vent out about metroPOS..!!! Their Cust. Service is non-existent, you have to go to the Activate your Account option (at least when I was with them), and like jdmchico said, they charge you just to pay your bill.. Also, their phone selection is even worse than T-Mobile's. Plus, they ported my number and my mother's to T-Mobile, but then they ended up giving her number to somebody else; she was getting calls for at least 2 other people, saying that they just got my mom's number assigned to them..If you go outside your home market, you're SOL unless you use an optional Travel option where you buy a bucket of minutes.. In Sacramento, they have more dead zones than you can shake your T-Mo Dash at..!

Cox cable.. Bah.. Their Call Centre here in Kansas is barely open, just until 8pm.. Comcast back in Sacramento, 24/7 and even Holidays! T-Mobile definitely has great customer service and available 24/7 too.. Cos there has been times I needed to cal them late at night, since I'm a night owl. =)

darkjedi
07-12-2007, 10:46 PM
I have to say that when I was having trouble first connecting my xbox 360 live I contacted linksys and WOW was their customer service first rate. Who woulda thought that an internet router company had customer service that was so helpful they made me forget about how made I was talking to Microsofts support line for xbox which was far and away the worst customer service ever. I have never deal with such an incompetent bunch of people in my entire life.

christyxcore
07-13-2007, 04:48 AM
chick-fil-a sucks. overpriced and crappy meat. but their CS is good i have to say.

:rolleyes: i like chick-fil-a. oh well, to each their own. but yeah, they do have good CS

~Evil~|~Steg~
07-14-2007, 11:08 PM
when u call the microsoft help/tech support line do they still charge u like 50-100 bucks a question? thats what they used to charge a few yrs back, they bill it to ur home fone when u call in... lmao i dont see how someone could pay that. i understand some ppl get entraped that way and get stuck paying it. i called in one time when win 95 first came out and was asking about the price, i remember they said it was 2.99 a min, or 45 dollars for like 30 mins. i didnt need the help, i just couldnt believe that they charged that much... look at geek squad, i heard they chrge alot for help also... to me when a companys tech support charges you for a service for a product that you bought in the first place, thats not right. lol i wouldnt be supprised if all of these iphone users, have to pay for their cs when they call in...