new blackberry phones

[joedagook]

for those of you that haven't heard

RIM is coming out with a few new phones for t-mobile customers, come November..ish.

the RSRs were told: "as you all know.. during the year before the peak season (november/december), we roll out with new phones to help the market... ah hem. I cannot exactly say what.... but you all should get the point" (blackberry rep)

he then takes out his curve, and makes a mention about a "Pearl 2"


so expect the Curve and "Pearl 2" to be released sometime in october/november. Just in time for the Christmas season. hooray.

also, for you Pearl users, there is the "turn wifi off/on" function on your phone. as of now, it seems to be such an unnecessary feature, but there is a reason for it to be there. The bbry rep told us that there will be a major firmware and hardware updates (for the newer RIM series phones) that will make use of the seemingly useless feature.

[terryjohnson16]

I figured the Pearl 2 would be coming to T-Mobile. But I am surprised that T-Mobile is waiting that long to launch the Curve aka 8320 just cause it has Wifi.

[darkjedi]

for those of you that haven't heard

RIM is coming out with a few new phones for t-mobile customers, come November..ish.

the RSRs were told: "as you all know.. during the year before the peak season (november/december), we roll out with new phones to help the market... ah hem. I cannot exactly say what.... but you all should get the point" (blackberry rep)

he then takes out his curve, and makes a mention about a "Pearl 2"


so expect the Curve and "Pearl 2" to be released sometime in october/november. Just in time for the Christmas season. hooray.

also, for you Pearl users, there is the "turn wifi off/on" function on your phone. as of now, it seems to be such an unnecessary feature, but there is a reason for it to be there. The bbry rep told us that there will be a major firmware and hardware updates (for the newer RIM series phones) that will make use of the seemingly useless feature.

Due respect my fellow employee but your dates are wrong. I don't know where your blackberry rep is giving you this info but my contacts have very high reaches at blackberry and the dates I've been heard whispered around are sooner than that. They want to get a wi-fi blackberry out as soon as September to boost the UMA service. This is T-mobile's venture right now, win or lose this is what they are gambling on.

While the Holiday season may be a wonderful time to roll out phones it is by no means the "best" time of the year to roll out new equipment. There is better success with back to school services, mothers day, fathers day, all holidays that are gift oriented are beneficial to wireless launches.

I'm not going to post more info on the blackberry dates that I have been given because I trust in my blackberry source who has never steered me wrong. You might want to check the end date of ATT's exclusive cycle with the Curve. There are certain things even I won't post because in the off chance there is backlash I'd rather keep my sources for the next time I want info. Blackberry reps usually are the last to know when a release date is coming as it is, just as we RSR's tend to get our info from online forums rather than tmobilenews or other "official" sources. Boygenius gets more accurate release dates than reps for the wireless carriers. My blackberry rep told us the 8800 wasn't coming to T-mobile and a week later its online and available. Clueless.

The only thing that will push back these dates is something aside from equipment issues. Wanting to hold onto them in case of problems with UMA from the get go, preparing a launch campaign, working around 3g is possible but unlikely as we are still months from the government vacating the operating frequency.

[Scooby214]

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With all this talk of Wifi Blackberry phones, I wonder if I should change my plan to the Blackberry minutes and mail plan soon, before the price goes up or the plan disappears. I may pick up a Pearl if the price goes down, and that plan would give of unlimited sms. I expect the BB addon prices to in up when the Wifi Blackberry phones come out.

[darkjedi]

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With all this talk of Wifi Blackberry phones, I wonder if I should change my plan to the Blackberry minutes and mail plan soon, before the price goes up or the plan disappears. I may pick up a Pearl if the price goes down, and that plan would give of unlimited sms. I expect the BB addon prices to in up when the Wifi Blackberry phones come out.

Perhaps but I seriously doubt T-mobile would increase it any more than the standard 10 dollars difference between the BIS and total internet addon plans available now for the BB and the Windows Mobile devices respectively.

[greenblood]

is tethering allowed with bb option?
bb 8800 can be used as modem

[Scooby214]

Tethering is allowed with the BB option. After making the post, I read about the new @home stuff being released. Now I'm up in the air as far as my next cell phone fix.

[joedagook]

well thanks for the fix.

if what you claim is true (which i will assume is), i dont know why my rep just blurted out those random things, especially with the curve. sorry if im misleading.

[darkjedi]

well thanks for the fix.

if what you claim is true (which i will assume is), i dont know why my rep just blurted out those random things, especially with the curve. sorry if im misleading.

Hey lets hope my information is right because I'd rather these phones come out sooner than later!

[greenblood]

I notice a pic of T-Mobile Curve from another forum, which shows HotSpot @Home booting up screen
probably it's 8320 with VoIP (@Home) included
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa60/dizzle24012/BB/172317.jpg

[darkjedi]

I notice a pic of T-Mobile Curve from another forum, which shows HotSpot @Home booting up screen
probably it's 8320 with VoIP (@Home) included
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa60/dizzle24012/BB/172317.jpg

Not surprising...not surprising at all. Too bad it didn't come out yesterday, might have helped with the launch a little.

[greenblood]

I just hope there's an @Home addon for WM devices, that I don't have to buy @Home phone at all, just use my MDA

[darkjedi]

I just hope there's an @Home addon for WM devices, that I don't have to buy @Home phone at all, just use my MDA

You can't put the feature on your account with an MDA, customer service won't allow it. This feature needs to be enabled in two different systems and they are spot checking every day as the feature is activated. If you want to be clever and try and do it online by selecting a provisioned phone in my-tmobile they will sweep it and kick you off.

[greenblood]

no, you got wrong
I say will T-Mobile provide @Home update for WM phones (SDA, MDA, Dash, Wing)
about your reply, does it mean the users use bb option with non-bb phone, and even change my phone to bb in my t-mobile?!

[darkjedi]

no, you got wrong
I say will T-Mobile provide @Home update for WM phones (SDA, MDA, Dash, Wing)
about your reply, does it mean the users use bb option with non-bb phone, and even change my phone to bb in my t-mobile?!

Assuming that they will provide a software update is asinine. Did they make you purchase new equipment for myfaves or did they provide a software update? History dictates that T-mobile is more interested in selling the new equipment than updating old ones.
I don't understand the second part of your comment? Perhaps you can rephrase.

While we both could be wrong or right, history is on my side.

[greenblood]

You can't put the feature on your account with an MDA, customer service won't allow it. This feature needs to be enabled in two different systems and they are spot checking every day as the feature is activated. If you want to be clever and try and do it online by selecting a provisioned phone in my-tmobile they will sweep it and kick you off.

does it apply to $19.99 blkberry internet on non-blkberry devices
recently I read some threads there, that some members got bb internet removed because they got caught
then it's a question: if I use regular phone as modem (unlocked phone), and change my phone to blkberry model, add bb internet, then does T-Mobile check this?

[darkjedi]

does it apply to $19.99 blkberry internet on non-blkberry devices
recently I read some threads there, that some members got bb internet removed because they got caught
then it's a question: if I use regular phone as modem (unlocked phone), and change my phone to blkberry model, add bb internet, then does T-Mobile check this?

Yes they sweep for everything, T-mobile has a very fluid way of tracking phones and services used with them. You give me an IMEI and I can tell you how long that phone has been used with a particular number. The dates it's been used etc.

T-mobile doesn't police the non-myfaves equipment with myfaves rate plans because they are not delusional and more money is made on the rate plans than the devices themselves.

Also remember a month or two ago when T-mobile plugged the tzones port for 5.99? They do sweep and they are aware of the workarounds and are working to close them swiftly. A walled garden is not a far away possibility.

[greenblood]

Yes they sweep for everything, T-mobile has a very fluid way of tracking phones and services used with them. You give me an IMEI and I can tell you how long that phone has been used with a particular number. The dates it's been used etc.

T-mobile doesn't police the non-myfaves equipment with myfaves rate plans because they are not delusional and more money is made on the rate plans than the devices themselves.

Also remember a month or two ago when T-mobile plugged the tzones port for 5.99? They do sweep and they are aware of the workarounds and are working to close them swiftly. A walled garden is not a far away possibility.
I personally suggest T-Mobile should bring back $19.99 internet, that they can use it officially without the hotspot they never use, nor doing any workaround to avoid that $10 more for something don't use
I currently don't get affected because I have the grandfathered internet, and hope T-Mobile honors this, or I can change carrier

[Scooby214]

I would love to have a $20 internet plan that allowed tethering. They should only require the $30 plan for smartphones that have hotspot access.

[redwildebeast]

the mda, sda, dash dont have the ability to use the @home. it is not just a software update that would be needed to use the service.

[redwildebeast]

Yes they sweep for everything, T-mobile has a very fluid way of tracking phones and services used with them. You give me an IMEI and I can tell you how long that phone has been used with a particular number. The dates it's been used etc.

T-mobile doesn't police the non-myfaves equipment with myfaves rate plans because they are not delusional and more money is made on the rate plans than the devices themselves.

Also remember a month or two ago when T-mobile plugged the tzones port for 5.99? They do sweep and they are aware of the workarounds and are working to close them swiftly. A walled garden is not a far away possibility.

they dont sweep very well then because since the dash has come out many people have been using the BB plan on it. the reason t-mobile didnt do upgrades for non-myfaves phones is because the app takes up too much memory and it couldnt be placed on the old phones. and closing the ports for the $5.99. i'll believe it when i see it. those ports have been open ever since t-mobile has had gprs.

[darkjedi]

they dont sweep very well then because since the dash has come out many people have been using the BB plan on it. the reason t-mobile didnt do upgrades for non-myfaves phones is because the app takes up too much memory and it couldnt be placed on the old phones. and closing the ports for the $5.99. i'll believe it when i see it. those ports have been open ever since t-mobile has had gprs.

There were at least a dozen posts on hofo when they closed a port that allowed free access to tzones.

I can assure you that RAT performs daily sweeps on accounts.

The memory issue is not the only reason that the only reason. You tell me more memory was allocated for an "after" razor than prior to myfaves? Thats not true at all and I know this from the horses mouth at motorola. I have the liberty of working 15 miles away from their headquarters and I deal with reps from the mobile division daily and I can assure you this is not the case. I'm not arguing for the sake of arguing, this is fact.

[ikuma3]

I notice a pic of T-Mobile Curve from another forum, which shows HotSpot @Home booting up screen
probably it's 8320 with VoIP (@Home) included
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa60/dizzle24012/BB/172317.jpg

what site did you find that on?

[greenblood]

what site did you find that on?

pm dole
he posted in other forum