T-mobile crippling phones

[claydoh]

Can anyone tell me any way i can get around the fact that t-mobile has crippled:mad::mad: my nokia 6133. I want to use java applications I've installed, don't care about opera or g-mail, mostly care about music players and bluetooth. T-mobile has made it so that those applcations won't work. If I can't find a fix i may have to leave t-mobile, and convince everyone i know to leave, out of principle.

[kinjutsu11]

The only things that are crippled on the 6133 are:
mp3 ringtones won't work, unless they have DRM
network access is blocked with Java applications

Since you don't care about Opera and Gmail, as they both require network access, you should be fine, especially if you mostly care about the music player and bluetooth. Was there something specifically that you were trying to do?

[Turbo777]

I carried the 6133 for a time period and was able to install any application I wanted to on it. Bluetooth stereo worked just fine as did the internal Mp3 Player, and you can use WMA files for ringtones. All in all it is a great phone with plenty of good features. Compared to its factory twin (6131) you do miss much and it does function faster overall since there is not as much background software loaded on it. There is a way to change it to the 6131 firmware but it is complicated and you will be voiding the warranty. You do not really gain much by doing it.

[claydoh]

Third party music players don't work, any java application that wants to use bluetooth, in fact any java application that wants to use anything on the phone, internet, phonebook, sms, bluetooth, file access. All this has been crippled. These applications work on my unlocked sony ericsson phone but not on my t-mobile branded nokia or sony ericsson phones. Please don't believe that tmobile doesn't cripple its phones.

[Turbo777]

Well from personal experience of owning both a factory 6131 and a t-mobile 6133 I never could tell much of a difference. If it really bothers you that much just flash the 6131 firmware after you modify the internal model number on the flash chip

[~Evil~|~Steg~]

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Third party music players don't work, any java application that wants to use bluetooth, in fact any java application that wants to use anything on the phone, internet, phonebook, sms, bluetooth, file access. All this has been crippled. These applications work on my unlocked sony ericsson phone but not on my t-mobile branded nokia or sony ericsson phones. Please don't believe that tmobile doesn't cripple its phones.

Check in ur java setting to see what the cldc version is, because cldc 1.0 you can't access java with bluetooth, but cldc 1.1 should with no problems... and also the midp should be 2.0, which it is on most newer fones... my old razr v3 has cldc1.0 and midp 2.0 and has bluetooth, which isn't crippled btw it has full obex file xfer and obex oblect push... etc. But since it is cldc 1.0 it don't have the bluetooth java api`s, those are all in cldc 1.1, hope I explained that ok???

[claydoh]

Both with the 6133 and the 6263 when i try to use sailing clicker or even nokia wireless presenter on the 6263, the phone tells me application access not allowed.

[Galvatron]

Third party music players don't work, any java application that wants to use bluetooth, in fact any java application that wants to use anything on the phone, internet, phonebook, sms, bluetooth, file access. All this has been crippled. These applications work on my unlocked sony ericsson phone but not on my t-mobile branded nokia or sony ericsson phones. Please don't believe that tmobile doesn't cripple its phones.
lol if you wanna hack an mod a hand set find out how to flash te phone yourself and buy an UNLOCKED and UNBRANDED handset hey do exist Buth they are ot cheap.an every carrier disables certain fetures on phone buddy thats a reality verizon is most notoriouse of this fact so is att and appl with thei ibrick POS.

so before th play the role of alarmest conspiracy theorist that the world and the system is out to get ya get some fact straght.

EG verizone deliberatly locks down the built in GPS receiver on RIM's 8830 so your force to subscribe to there verozin navigator service they also deliberatly enbale he sim lock on it as well an clain theri is no unlock code even thogh RIM will tell you it dose exist as it dose for all gsm devices.

figure out how to load your own fim ware

idon't even us tmos OS on my 8800 i use vodaphone honkons version.

It seem to mee you going to have to learn how to hack an mod firmware on handsets

[claydoh]

lol if you wanna hack an mod a hand set find out how to flash te phone yourself and buy an UNLOCKED and UNBRANDED handset hey do exist Buth they are ot cheap.an every carrier disables certain fetures on phone buddy thats a reality verizon is most notoriouse of this fact so is att and appl with thei ibrick POS.

so before th play the role of alarmest conspiracy theorist that the world and the system is out to get ya get some fact straght.

EG verizone deliberatly locks down the built in GPS receiver on RIM's 8830 so your force to subscribe to there verozin navigator service they also deliberatly enbale he sim lock on it as well an clain theri is no unlock code even thogh RIM will tell you it dose exist as it dose for all gsm devices.

figure out how to load your own fim ware

idon't even us tmos OS on my 8800 i use vodaphone honkons version.

It seem to mee you going to have to learn how to hack an mod firmware on handsets


Can anyone read this post above? I'm confused. You're talking about verizon and gsm in the same thought. Verizon doesn't use gsm. They use CDMA.
I am not out to form a conspiracy theory. It's just that many people don't seem to realize that cell phone carriers cripple the features of the phones they carry. T-mobile did not do this in the past. I'm curious as to why they started following the evils of Verizon. I don't see the harm in allowing java apps to access the bluetooth features of the phone.

[OldPro]

...T-mobile did not do this in the past. ...

Uh... Is this, like, your first new cell phone in 15 years or something? Every carrier limits the functionality of there phones, at least in the one below the top line phones (not sure of them, it's never been worth it to me to pay that much for a cell phone). Sometime it appears to be like the example above, where the carrier seems to be trying to force you to use their fee based service (like the Verizon example above, or where the only way to offload a picture is through the messaging service). Other times I am convinced it is the idea of some marketing "genius". At a certain price point you are only allowed a 1.3 megapixel camera, and that is where they want to sell this phone, so the manufacturer has to downgrade the cell phone camera.

But my point is that this is not a new thing.

[claydoh]

It would be "their phones," not "there phones." There is a location.

[Galvatron]

bod cdma a gsm carriers do this verizo is the most notorious for this practice voada phone strated this practice in europe an caoerver them to do it vodaphone owns 45% ov verizon wirlesss the other portion is owned by verizon comunications. they play you like fidles with those family plans. but also verizons cdma empire is beginging to crumble a bit. they are not " THE NETWORK cause they don't work outside the states an when you have to resort to marketing GM/CDMA hybrid phones you know dcma is going down hill

whats funny and rather ironic is that if you buy a gsm cdma hybrid form verizon ala blackberry 8830 8130 world edition you can't put another gsm carrier's sim in to use the handset because (drumroll....) the sim lock on the sim card slot is engaged an the csr's an the supervisors an the eir call center counterparts don't know about it or deliberatly don't tell you or calim the unlock code dosn't exist even thogh RIM (the guys who manufacture the crackberries) will tell you other wise.