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j__1
10-17-2007, 10:44 AM
Slashdot | Swearing at Work is Bleeping Good For You (http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/10/17/1428230)

I think Sue Nokes might actually back this one up:


Posted by CmdrTaco (http://cmdrtaco.net/) on Wednesday October 17, @10:36AM
from the now-shut-the-bleep-up-you-bleeping-bleep dept.
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coondoggie (mcooney@nww.com) writes "This is the kind of news that your HR folks don't want to hear, but researchers today said letting workers swear at will in the workplace can benefit employees (http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/20718) and employers. The study found regular use of profanity to express and reinforce solidarity among staff, enabling them to express their feelings, such as frustration, and develop social relationships, according to researchers at the University of East Anglia (UES). Researchers said their aim was to challenge leadership styles and suggest ideas for best practice. "Employees use swearing on a continuous basis, but not necessarily in a negative, abusive manner. Swearing was as a social phenomenon to reflect solidarity and enhance group cohesiveness, or as a psychological phenomenon to release stress, " the study stated."

I'm sure the discussion and tags on this story will be completely G Rated ;)

Ellen
10-17-2007, 10:55 AM
Before this topic gets underway here, I'm going to ask that everyone keep the forum rules in mind when posting their replies in this thread. All inappropriate comments will be removed and a warning given. http://www.t-mobilesignal.com/forum/f235/political-touchy-discussions-forum-rules-1849.html

Ellen
10-17-2007, 11:07 AM
In the setting that I work in, allowing workers to swear would be inconceivable.... And IMO, something like this shows poor taste as well.

j__1
10-17-2007, 11:27 AM
I'm more of a libertarian.... and how I would define the swearing challenge can get somewhat complicated and convoluted.

There seems to be the belief that being politically correct will somehow stamp out racism or other injustices. Being of African American, American Indian, Irish, etcetera decent, but with a Milano or inverse Oreo look on the outside, I have, for the most part, been able to sit in the bleachers and 'fit in' without notifiable racism. And with a family unit that, due to numerous challenges and setbacks, has had to work themselves up from white trash to, at least from a percentile perspective, white rich... I must admit I've had a great life.

Now, I tell you what I've learned in my experience.... I would much rather know where one stands, than deal with those with a sweet, kind, and gentle smile that preach one way, but stab me, or my people, in the back with ignorance on the other. ;)

I guess, what I'm saying is, I appreciate expression... in almost any form, as long as it does not do permanent physical or mental harm. Or, more importantly at a higher level, infringe on my established rights.

If you want to get into North vs. South and who was more racist... batter up! ;)

greenblood
10-17-2007, 12:12 PM
Wirelessly posted (Dell X50v and/or SE K790a: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.01; Windows CE; PPC; 240x320))

I would use "beep" if I have to vent in curse (masked)

genaldar
10-20-2007, 02:13 AM
I swear a lot, even at work. But only after my boss goes home and if no one is on the phone (I'm pretty loud).

Rzrlvr74
10-20-2007, 11:02 AM
Swearing at work is a touchy subject. If you work in an environment where there is a constant customer presence, it should be a no go. Eventhough it may be good for the
employees, it does not portray a professional environment. There is also the whole
HR subject. All it takes is one offended employee to call the others on it and there could be cause for a lawsuit. I do agree that if in the right company and out of sight of customers it can be beneficial, but there must be guidelines in place. Amazing how complicated a little swearing can be, huh? Lol.:)

kinjutsu11
10-20-2007, 11:10 AM
With my management team, we curse among ourselves, but NEVER in front of other employees. We live by LFTF - Lead From The Front, if we do it, so will everyone else, and THAT is unacceptable.

j__1
10-22-2007, 12:53 AM
I was raised not to swear. Sure, we goof up now and then and sometimes things come out, but bad language is not and will never be a part of my vocab. To me, heavy swearing and constant dirty talk is a sign of a feeble mind, or that of an uneducated one.I don't disagree... swearing just to swear can be senseless. However, many times, a four letter word can get to the root... or at least express a problem in a way that the majority can relate to. Why use 2 words when 1 will do? ;)

j__1
10-22-2007, 12:56 AM
With my management team, we curse among ourselves, but NEVER in front of other employees. We live by LFTF - Lead From The Front, if we do it, so will everyone else, and THAT is unacceptable.Couldn't agree more... just as I would never wear white quarter socks with slacks in a TMO store. :D

christyxcore
10-22-2007, 01:24 AM
Me, my friends at work, and even my boss say swear words when there's no customers. As long as it's not in front of a customer, I don't think it matters.

genaldar
10-23-2007, 02:16 AM
I was raised not to swear. Sure, we goof up now and then and sometimes things come out, but bad language is not and will never be a part of my vocab. To me, heavy swearing and constant dirty talk is a sign of a feeble mind, or that of an uneducated one.
Words are words. Assuming that because I swear alot I have a feeble mind or I'm not educated is no different than assuming something about me based on race or sex. You may not like my choice of words, but attaching some intrinsic value to the words I choose is ignorant.

Railroader
10-23-2007, 02:17 AM
No, words are not words, some can hurt, some can make you feel good, still others can bring love, hate or a range of emotions :) To many of us, they are offensive, some words that really get me upset are the F word or misuing Jesus Christ's name or saying G D all the time, to many of us those are sacred and reverant names. I guess I should have reworded my posts, I never inteded to say you or anyone else was stupid or worse than others for using that kind of language, I'm sorry you took it that way, but please remember not everyone around you wants to hear those words, so be respectful of that :) I am not ignorant, I happen to be very well educated and aware of the world's ways, I hear bad language by the boxcar loads on the railroad, but once people find out I'm Mormon they are usually pretty good about words, and they do notice if I slip up, and never let me forget it ;)

Edit-Milton "Uncle Miltie" Berle once said there is a time and place for certain language and jokes, but that many of the modern comedians simply don't know when to turn it on and off, it's so much a part of them they don't even notice. I have many good friends who have pretty foul mouths, and I don't think any less of them, it just gets....how should I say it, upsetting to hear it all the time. I an one of the most loving and kind people you'll meet, I was raised to love and help ALL mankind, but that doesn't mean I have to accept everything people do.

Edit-I deleted the offensive post, again, I'm sorry for the misudnerstanding, it was poorly worded and not thought out well.

Rzrlvr74
10-23-2007, 06:25 PM
No, words are not words, some can hurt, some can make you feel good, still others can bring love, hate or a range of emotions :) To many of us, they are offensive, some words that really get me upset are the F word or misuing Jesus Christ's name or saying G D all the time, to many of us those are sacred and reverant names. I guess I should have reworded my posts, I never inteded to say you or anyone else was stupid or worse than others for using that kind of language, I'm sorry you took it that way, but please remember not everyone around you wants to hear those words, so be respectful of that :) I am not ignorant, I happen to be very well educated and aware of the world's ways, I hear bad language by the boxcar loads on the railroad, but once people find out I'm Mormon they are usually pretty good about words, and they do notice if I slip up, and never let me forget it ;)

Edit-Milton "Uncle Miltie" Berle once said there is a time and place for certain language and jokes, but that many of the modern comedians simply don't know when to turn it on and off, it's so much a part of them they don't even notice. I have many good friends who have pretty foul mouths, and I don't think any less of them, it just gets....how should I say it, upsetting to hear it all the time. I an one of the most loving and kind people you'll meet, I was raised to love and help ALL mankind, but that doesn't mean I have to accept everything people do.

Edit-I deleted the offensive post, again, I'm sorry for the misudnerstanding, it was poorly worded and not thought out well.


I agree with the belief that swearing in place of using more appropriate vocabulary can make one appear ill educated. Foul language is often used when one cannot find another, more descriptive word. Swearing in conversation deducts IQ points in most peoples' eyes. However, the ocassional s*** or d*** when you drop something or forget something is generally forgiven. I agree COMPLETELY that GD and JC are just plain rude. Even if you do not believe, consider that numberous people around you just might. It is almost as greivous to a Chritian as a racial epithat.