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greenblood
09-20-2007, 02:05 PM
VZW finally embrace GSM, though it's 4G, and not going to Rev. C
Verizon Wireless to join Vodafone in upgrade to LTE - RCR Wireless News (http://www.rcrnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070920/FREE/70920004/1002)

Verizon Wireless and Vodafone Group plc will both use Long Term Evolution technology as the 4G evolution path for their respective networks, according to remarks by company executives this week.

Arun Sarin, CEO of Vodafone, and Verizon Communications Inc. chairman and CEO Ivan Seidenberg, spoke about the technology choice at the Goldman Sachs Communacopia conference yesterday. Vodafone and Verizon control Verizon Wireless through a joint venture.

Sarin laid out a path toward LTE evolution within the next three to four years. Vodafone relies on GSM- and HSPA-based technology for wireless high-speed data access in its properties abroad, while Verizon Wireless—45% owned by Vodafone—is a CDMA operator whose most recent network upgrade has been to EV-DO Revision A.

j__1
09-21-2007, 07:06 PM
So, by the time AWS clears up, Verizon with be 4G? :rolleyes:

Seriously, I hope the AWS bet pays off... soon!

greenblood
09-22-2007, 01:59 AM
Wirelessly posted (Dell X50v and/or SE K790a: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.01; Windows CE; PPC; 240x320))

the question is: how many MHz required to run LTE?
if it's 10MHz or less, T-Mobile can deploy LTE on new Band 4 (AWS)

j__1
09-22-2007, 02:04 AM
Wirelessly posted (Dell X50v and/or SE K790a: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.01; Windows CE; PPC; 240x320))

the question is: how many MHz required to run LTE?
if it's 10MHz or less, T-Mobile can deploy LTE on new Band 4 (AWS)From a technical perspective, I agree.

I'm more interested in timing, though. Not necessarily because of end product, but more how it will affect strategy.

greenblood
09-22-2007, 08:48 AM
if T-Mobile can spare out Band 4 for LTE nationalwide, we all will understand why T-Mobile spent that much, they also spent the money for the future
now the concern is internet backbone, T-Mobile does not have own fiber network, they may need other ISPs or cable companies
We actually have enough spectrum nationwide to do close to whatever we wish to do. Before the AWS auction, spectrum was a huge issue. Now we are just as well off as Sprint and Verizon. The thing that hurts us costwise when trying to implement high speed data is the price we have to pay for T1s. We are the only company of the top 4 that does not have its own fiber backbone. We have to depend on our competition for T1s. I have seen a single T1 in our market cost upwards of $5,000 per month. It is hard to make up that cost on a single cell site.

j__1
09-22-2007, 10:40 AM
if T-Mobile can spare out Band 4 for LTE nationalwide, we all will understand why T-Mobile spent that much, they also spent the money for the future
now the concern is internet backbone, T-Mobile does not have own fiber network, they may need other ISPs or cable companiesThat's part of the reason why I talk about things like flat-rate billing... and other ways to dramatically reduce costs today.

IMO, now is not the time to try and go head-to-head with at&t and Verizon. Although I know that at least at&t faces similar but different network infrastructure challenges... that will keep them busy for quite some time.

Who knows, though... perhaps we'll start hearing about Comcast or other similar mergers again. I still don't think there is a magic pill.

justdigphones
09-24-2007, 11:55 PM
That's part of the reason why I talk about things like flat-rate billing... and other ways to dramatically reduce costs today.

IMO, now is not the time to try and go head-to-head with at&t and Verizon. Although I know that at least at&t faces similar but different network infrastructure challenges... that will keep them busy for quite some time.

Who knows, though... perhaps we'll start hearing about Comcast or other similar mergers again. I still don't think there is a magic pill.

I agree, atleast stateside, at&t and verizon have such leg up, t-mobile is gonna have to do something different. The big cable co's are having major losses due to dsl and satellite gains a merger might make sense for both.