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Old 10-09-2007, 07:32 PM
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Exclamation Oh! I hope this blows up in "AT&T Apple's" face!!

I hope this puts Apple and AT&T in check for coming up with a stupid 5-year exclusive agreement, then deciding to brick people's phones that manage to break the weak lock placed on the i-phone:

Lawsuit accuses Apple of unlawful iPhone monopoly - Yahoo! News

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SAN FRANCISCO (AFP) - A civil lawsuit filed in California accuses Apple of creating an unlawful iPhone monopoly and vindictively releasing a software update that turns hacked devices into "iBricks."

The lawsuit, filed by attorney Damian Fernandez on behalf of a California man, accuses Apple of creating a monopoly by barring US customers from choosing a cellphone service provider other than US telecom giant AT&T.

The lawsuit also says Apple released last month a software update that disables iPhones that customers managed to unlock to choose another carrier.

Fernandez, who filed the lawsuit on October 5, is seeking "class action" status to expand the litigation to cover all US iPhone buyers.

In court documents, Fernandez estimates that Apple has sold 1.28 million iPhones since they went on sale in the United States on June 29.

Several hundred thousand of those phones were hacked to enable them to connect to service providers other than AT&T, which has a five-year deal to be the exclusive US telephone service for the devices.

The lawsuit says Apple has created a monopoly by forcing iPhone buyers to use AT&T and not "unlocking" the devices to allow service by rival carriers.

An update released September 27 for iPhone software disables hacked devices, turning the phones into "iBricks," the suit alleged.

"Apple punished consumers for exercising their rights to unlock their iPhones," Fernandez says in court documents.

"Apple issued a software update that 'bricked' or otherwise caused iPhone malfunctions for consumers who unlocked their phones and installed the update."

The suit demands a jury trial and asks the court to order Apple to unlock iPhones and provide warranty service to hacked devices.

It also demands Apple be forced to pay unspecified cash damages.

"Apple's unlawful trust with AT&T substantially lessens competition and tends to create a monopoly in trade and commerce throughout the entire United States," Fernandez claims in the suit.

Apple declined to comment.
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Old 10-09-2007, 08:05 PM
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Default Re: Oh! I hope this blows up in "AT&Apple's" face!!

I don't see this suit going anywhere.
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Old 10-09-2007, 08:14 PM
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Default Re: Oh! I hope this blows up in "AT&Apple's" face!!

It kind of falls into a grey area. If you want an iphone that bad, either you go with AT&T or nothing. It was pretty rotten of Apple to allow AT&T to be the only carrier to
offer the iphone, but the thought behind it was (initially) that only AT&T had the ability
to support all the iphone's features. However, it's like anything else, if you mod a phone or unlock a phone and brick it, your warranty is null and void. However, for Apple to knowingly and vindictively brick the iphones with an update is pretty bad. If they don't lose the lawsuit, their reputation as a company will still take a hit.
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Old 10-09-2007, 08:37 PM
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Default Re: Oh! I hope this blows up in "AT&Apple's" face!!

Oy not another thread on this!!!

Keep it friendly peeps!!!

Personal note: This suit is friviulous with no chance of success.
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Old 10-09-2007, 08:41 PM
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Default Re: Oh! I hope this blows up in "AT&Apple's" face!!

Truthfully, AT&T was the only carrier that would agree to Apple's draconian practices. They hit up other carriers first. If I were a carrier, no way would I want to do business with Apple the way that Apple has done with the iPhone. One should be able to leave the carrier store with a device already working for one.

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Default Re: Oh! I hope this blows up in "AT&Apple's" face!!

i doubt its going to go anywhere
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Default Re: Oh! I hope this blows up in "AT&Apple's" face!!

I doubt much will happen with this lawsuit -- but, it's just another sign that more and more people are becoming disillusions with Apple. Will public opinion keep moving in that direction?
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Old 10-10-2007, 01:07 AM
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I doubt much will happen with this lawsuit -- but, it's just another sign that more and more people are becoming disillusions with Apple. Will public opinion keep moving in that direction?
I really don't think the unlocking problem is going to affect them. First, most people and I say most because the largest estimate I've seen of people purchasing phones for the purpose of unlocking is 10%. We can all do that math and figure out that the other 90% is probably pretty happy with their purchase. Yes, Apple stumbled by reducing the price from a PR standpoint but thats consumer reality and I don't think that backlash will last if it already hasn't died. Mac sales are up, ipod sales will obviously peak during the next 3 months as we enter the holiday season. I think Apple is firing on all cylinders right now and while they haven't pleased everyone with the iphone, I don't think the general public is as informed as us forum users who follow these stories and stay up to date.

Vista failures and drawbacks have given Apple an open door and while have they haven't capitalized on that the pitch hasn't gone by either. There is a void right now from Microsoft as they move back to XP and onto a post Vista world and Apple if they can react quickly enough just might be able to capture another few percentage points in the market.
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Old 10-10-2007, 01:35 AM
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Default Re: Oh! I hope this blows up in "AT&Apple's" face!!

Apple's "response" to Vista, the new version of OS X (10.5 "Leopard") should ship this month.

And for what it's worth, it seems that the update bricked as many un-modified, un-unlocked iPhones as it did modified ones. (Several major tech blogs have conducted admittedly unscientific polls on the subject.) The phones were bricked because of a flaw in the update, not because Apple decided to brick all the evil hackers' iPhones. The update was designed to re-lock the iPhones to AT&T and restore them to their original state, but not turn them into $400 paperweights...this time.
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Old 10-11-2007, 07:20 AM
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Default Re: Oh! I hope this blows up in "AT&Apple's" face!!

I can understand why he guy is going through this but I will agree, I don't see it going very far. I didn't know that Apple and ATT had this contract for 5 years. I thought it was less.
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